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Old 06-23-2005, 12:18 AM   #76
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Well Craig...

It seems that Jewel is pretty naive too... she said in an interview with MTV:

"I'm here to make money for my record company... that's why they keep me around."
(I used that quote under my sig in the old alt.fan.jewel forum)

So, spare me your philosophy ... go tell it to Jewel.

And... before we go any further... let's clear this up... so I know where I stand...
this swapping and changing is pretty confusing... so... I'll repeat this message:

"This is the one thing that SERIOUSLY pisses me off about Jewel fans:

When Jewel was collecting gold and platinum for Spirit & POY,
yeah, Kilcherians were braggin from every mountain top on earth about it.

Then, when Jewel releases a mediocre album that doesn't rate too much...
then, the very same Kilcherians change their tune.

They then say that awards and public accolades don't mean too much...
Jewel doesn't make music to satisfy the ignorant masses."

So Craig... which way do Kilcherians want it... they can't have it both ways.

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PS- regarding the Grammy's...Veiling Meat...WELL SAID!! (Craig)
Again... tell that to Jewel... she wanted one for POY... pity Leanne beat her.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:40 AM   #77
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Intrepid Prez says:
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:dir: "This is the one thing that SERIOUSLY pisses me off about Jewel fans:

When Jewel was collecting gold and platinum for Spirit & POY,
yeah, Kilcherians were braggin from every mountain top on earth about it.

Then, when Jewel releases a mediocre album that doesn't rate too much...
then, the very same Kilcherians change their tune."
Personally I don't know one "Kilcherian" who gives a flying leap, never mind brags from mountaintops, about her going platinum and silver.
I could care less, I am too busy ENJOYING THE MUSIC than being a bean counter. Going platinum and silver are not awards that are voted by her peer artists either, such as the Oscars. They are just recognition for a number sold which again, means NOTHING to me personally.

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"Again... tell that to Jewel... she wanted one for POY... pity Leanne beat her."
You are lucky to be privy to the fact Jewel wanted one!! When did she tell you that? I am sure it is flattering to be nominated by your peers but if that is why your are in the business, instead of creating music...again...get out.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:07 AM   #78
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Then why did she go to the grammies if she'd reckon they were so trivial...
and... then go flashing her tits to anyone who cared to photograph them ???

And... let's get real here... have you ever seen anything as superficial as her grammy dress ???
Umm... seems an odd way to protest or a boycott such meaningless grammy awards.





And wasn't Jewel ever so articulate and 'true to herself' when posing for blender.
She looks so perfectly credible with her legs spread wide (in fishnet stockings)
across the back of a chair.






Give me a break, Craig.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:50 PM   #79
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Well I'm sorry if I've offended anyone with my views-
Either way I'm done discussing the grammys- that's entirely beside my point and I said what I think about this
But I absolutely agree with you Craig that the best artists are usually buried somewhere and you have to dig them out from the underground while Lindsey Lohan gets a record deal, but

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In the music industry there are artists and entertainers.
The record companies are more concerned with sales than many of the "artists".
That's exactly my point- that's exactly why I'm criticizing Jewel and this album- because I think that 0304 was incredibly ingenuine
I think she's tried to turn from an artist into an "entertainer"
Because Britney Spears gets better deals and money

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When people are more concerned about selling records than their craft and artistry, they should not be in the industry anymore
And that's exactly what I meant toward Jewel- when I've made a post a long, long time ago- saying that she's changed for me with that album from an artist to someone who's just commercialized her product and tries to sell it to the masses.. I know you don't want this argument to continue, especially because there are people who strongly disagree, but I guess I just got reminded of my own point of view and comment in your post
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:40 PM   #80
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Who in the name of hell is Leanne??????? never heard of her in my life
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Old 06-23-2005, 06:04 PM   #81
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do people continually forget what jewel said about 0304? good gawd i'm going to just give up my jewel site and even this forum if this 0304 bashing continues!!!!
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:39 PM   #82
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Aye true...its all about making an opinion,and then someone slagging off that opinion,and then someone slagging off the opinion of the opinion!!!! :wacko:
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:30 AM   #83
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How long must we continue to bash 0304.
0304 was Realeased like 2 years, 2 weeks ago.
Intuition has been out like 2 months prior to the album.

This topic just gets more and more sickening. Every chance you get you guys are bashing 0304. I loved 0304 It is my favorite album to date.

Let's get on with our lives.
Did you guys here the next album will be called 0607
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Old 06-24-2005, 02:03 PM   #84
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I'm sorry ^_^
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Old 06-24-2005, 06:02 PM   #85
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May Peace Remain For Many Years To Come :gve:
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:01 PM   #86
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Pauseandplay.com says the new album will be released sept 13th :)
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:58 AM   #87
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Hmmm,so it does...but it dont sound very specific!? still a 'To be announced' and it could be delayed,which is more than likely!!!
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Exactly ^_^
And lets hope for September 13th ;)
That's a few days right before my birthday
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Your birthday eh! well all the best until then ay,could be a worthy gift on that great day ;)
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well thanks ;) and my point exactly
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