Posting Live Mp3s And Video?

JupiterCalling · 04-12-2005, 04:10 PM

Do you guys have a problem with people posting live MP3's of some of here rare stuff or video from her countless perfomances on TV? :dunno:

MrCC · 04-12-2005, 04:39 PM

I can't speak for the admins, but I would think that they might allow it as long as you posted only links and they would not be hosting the actual files. That kind of thing really eats up the bandwidth.

In defense of this kind of thing. Here's my thoughts:

Only Things Taped Off Television should be posted.
Don't Post Anything Off a Commercially Available Product.
Posting Commercials Should Be Encouraged. The advertisers would be very happy.

Taping and sharing of videos that you have taped of the air is legal even in the US. You can't make a profit off them or charge admission to view them. Many people just assume that this is not legal to tape shows off the air. They make DVR recorders like Tivo that can be used to record shows and copy them to DVD's. All of this is legal from what I understand.

Wouldn't it be OK to simply share links to things that you taped off the television?

JupiterCalling · 04-12-2005, 04:50 PM

I would be using yousendit.com (which allows anyone to upload links for free - 25 downloads or for 7 days) and I would NEVER upload anything commercial that would take away money from Jewel.

folderol and · 04-12-2005, 07:49 PM

There is also youshareit.com, which alllows 100 downloads. And I just noticed in the Fiona Apple tracks thread, some links were removed? Admins, mods, explain?

kjm030584 · 04-12-2005, 08:15 PM

I think Kiera already explained this. I had some live Jewel clips that were removed. I still think there's something blatantly contradictory about it though. :blink:

michaelsjewel · 04-12-2005, 09:21 PM

they removed the live links....well...personally i don't consider that a bad thing that should be removed...i mean, if they aren't selling the product, why not make it available to people!!!! it's only fair to those that are in search of it - that's really what i do with my site audio and video wise :)

Little Bird · 04-14-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kjm030584@Apr 12 2005, 08:15 PM
I think Kiera already explained this. I had some live Jewel clips that were removed. I still think there's something blatantly contradictory about it though. :blink:

You didn't have live Jewel clips, you had Fiona Apple links to songs from her new album that wasn't even released yet.

That, I don't allow!

kjm030584 · 04-14-2005, 07:26 PM

i don't think that was me... I don't even like Fiona Apple. I had the acoustic stuff from 0304. It said the links were removed by the mods.

Okay... so i don't completely hate fiona apple, I really like criminal and that's it. Well i'd love to stay and talk but i gotta go milk my gerbil.

folderol and · 04-14-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by little_bird
You didn't have live Jewel clips, you had Fiona Apple links to songs from her new album that wasn't even released yet.

That, I don't allow!

OK, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by "released yet". I'm under the impression that you're under the impression that they will be released soon. However, the album's been shelved for almost two years. And now we can all finally hear the album, but so far, the only way of doing that is through the internet.

But you're an admin and I'm just a lowly member, so do what ya want. ;)

\ david

michaelsjewel · 04-14-2005, 09:27 PM

i read in a entertainment weekly in january that it was 6 months behind...not 2 years...lol...but oh well... if they aren't going to release the cd, i don't think it's bad at all david :wub:

folderol and · 04-14-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by michaelsjewel
i read in a entertainment weekly in january that it was 6 months behind...not 2 years...lol...

Maybe that's because Sony/Epic kept pushing back the date?

Quote:

but oh well... if they aren't going to release the cd, i don't think it's bad at all david? :wub:

WRONG.

Just because you're one of the few that don't like the songs doesn't mean that the release of the CD should be unimportant to everyone else.

\ david

michaelsjewel · 04-14-2005, 10:36 PM

DAVID..... u misread that last statement so badly.... i meant u posting mp3's for listening pleasure to preview it.... it's no fair that people cannot listen to it -

folderol and · 04-16-2005, 02:19 PM

In that case, I still don't understand your last statement. :wacko:

Angel_Eyes · 04-17-2005, 12:45 AM

I think he means... as long as Fiona's album isn't going to be released, he doesn't think it's bad to post MP3's so that others can hear it. ;)

folderol and · 04-17-2005, 01:56 AM

Ohhhhh, NOW I get it. :unsure:

04-12-2005, 04:10 PM	#1
JupiterCalling Members Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 244	Do you guys have a problem with people posting live MP3's of some of here rare stuff or video from her countless perfomances on TV? :dunno: __________________ We both know it was a Girl back in Bethlehem ~Tori Amos so here's a toast to all the folks who live in palestine afghanistan iraq el salvador here's a toast to the folks living on the pine ridge reservation under the stone cold gaze of mt. rushmore here's a toast to all those nurses and doctors who daily provide women with a choice who stand down a threat the size of oklahoma city just to listen to a young woman's voice ~Ani DiFranco

04-12-2005, 04:39 PM	#2
MrCC JKF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The World Jewel Forum Posts: 839 Rep Power: 0	I can't speak for the admins, but I would think that they might allow it as long as you posted only links and they would not be hosting the actual files. That kind of thing really eats up the bandwidth. In defense of this kind of thing. Here's my thoughts: Only Things Taped Off Television should be posted. Don't Post Anything Off a Commercially Available Product. Posting Commercials Should Be Encouraged. The advertisers would be very happy. Taping and sharing of videos that you have taped of the air is legal even in the US. You can't make a profit off them or charge admission to view them. Many people just assume that this is not legal to tape shows off the air. They make DVR recorders like Tivo that can be used to record shows and copy them to DVD's. All of this is legal from what I understand. Wouldn't it be OK to simply share links to things that you taped off the television? __________________ Mike

04-12-2005, 04:50 PM	#3
JupiterCalling Members Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 244	I would be using yousendit.com (which allows anyone to upload links for free - 25 downloads or for 7 days) and I would NEVER upload anything commercial that would take away money from Jewel. __________________ We both know it was a Girl back in Bethlehem ~Tori Amos so here's a toast to all the folks who live in palestine afghanistan iraq el salvador here's a toast to the folks living on the pine ridge reservation under the stone cold gaze of mt. rushmore here's a toast to all those nurses and doctors who daily provide women with a choice who stand down a threat the size of oklahoma city just to listen to a young woman's voice ~Ani DiFranco

04-12-2005, 07:49 PM	#4
folderol and Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 161 Rep Power: 247	There is also youshareit.com, which alllows 100 downloads. And I just noticed in the Fiona Apple tracks thread, some links were removed? Admins, mods, explain? __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>\ but now i've seen your tactics and your [FIRE] in the hole \ this entire operation is a MIS-APPROPRIATION of my {soul} \ ?roger wilco? shawn colvin</span></span>

04-12-2005, 08:15 PM	#5
kjm030584 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,843 Rep Power: 265	I think Kiera already explained this. I had some live Jewel clips that were removed. I still think there's something blatantly contradictory about it though. :blink: __________________

04-12-2005, 09:21 PM	#6
michaelsjewel Member's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE, USA Posts: 707 Rep Power: 253	they removed the live links....well...personally i don't consider that a bad thing that should be removed...i mean, if they aren't selling the product, why not make it available to people!!!! it's only fair to those that are in search of it - that's really what i do with my site audio and video wise :)

04-14-2005, 07:26 PM	#8
kjm030584 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,843 Rep Power: 265	i don't think that was me... I don't even like Fiona Apple. I had the acoustic stuff from 0304. It said the links were removed by the mods. Okay... so i don't completely hate fiona apple, I really like criminal and that's it. Well i'd love to stay and talk but i gotta go milk my gerbil. __________________

04-14-2005, 09:27 PM	#10
michaelsjewel Member's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE, USA Posts: 707 Rep Power: 253	i read in a entertainment weekly in january that it was 6 months behind...not 2 years...lol...but oh well... if they aren't going to release the cd, i don't think it's bad at all david :wub:

04-14-2005, 10:36 PM	#12
michaelsjewel Member's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE, USA Posts: 707 Rep Power: 253	DAVID..... u misread that last statement so badly.... i meant u posting mp3's for listening pleasure to preview it.... it's no fair that people cannot listen to it -

04-16-2005, 02:19 PM	#13
folderol and Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 161 Rep Power: 247	In that case, I still don't understand your last statement. :wacko: __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>\ but now i've seen your tactics and your [FIRE] in the hole \ this entire operation is a MIS-APPROPRIATION of my {soul} \ ?roger wilco? shawn colvin</span></span>

04-17-2005, 12:45 AM	#14
Angel_Eyes Members Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: southwest Virginia Posts: 300 Rep Power: 249	I think he means... as long as Fiona's album isn't going to be released, he doesn't think it's bad to post MP3's so that others can hear it. ;) __________________ ~Tracy aka Angel Eyes~ "I am a princess and I'm locked inside a stone tower of song. Trying to write messages on the wind trying to send the message how I just want to belong." Jewel - Choose Me/Where You Are

04-17-2005, 01:56 AM	#15
folderol and Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 161 Rep Power: 247	Ohhhhh, NOW I get it. :unsure: __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>\ but now i've seen your tactics and your [FIRE] in the hole \ this entire operation is a MIS-APPROPRIATION of my {soul} \ ?roger wilco? shawn colvin</span></span>