[LonelyLullaby]

Kiera that was exactly my point. If you are uncomfortable with the word "spam" choose another. The point stays the same
Mike I posted those links so you get a general idea of what spam is. I didn't mean to imply that you do all of those things. But did you understand what the problem was on the forum from the second link? They were complaining about their threads being taken off-topic and they referred to it as "spam"
You don't do any of the above. Except take some of the topics offtrack (along with some of the other members, and not anymore. We are only talking in past terms. I'm grateful for everything that you're doing right now- except for the personal attacks)
These "rules" are the accepted definition of spam on message boards
How many more links do you want me to post on the same rules with the word "spam" attached to them? But if it's the word that offends you, please accept my apologies. Call it whatever you want to. The point wasn't the word, it's what I meant to say by it
Sure you can post "I agree" every once in a while. But not when a thread consists of those pots, you know ;) A lot of members just "agreeing"
I think that was their point. But that doesn't apply here, not everything from that link- actually almost nothing from that link other than the offtopic comments does
It was just to give you a general idea
I'm not telling the administrators how to run their forum, I'm just complaining as a member about threads going off topic. Once again it doesn't seem to be an issue anymore (which is the reason I did this in the first place, so guess what, I guess that was a good idea) so we are talking only in terms of the past
I didn't post that your comment wasn't appropriate, I posted that it takes the thread off topic and my comment was actually there to take notice of that- it grew into a bigger deal than I expected, but it's a good thing- because too many people have mentioned this and I think at some point this should have been brought up
If it's the word that I used that offends you, do accept my apologies
It's just how I'm used to refer to it from uh.. every other forum I've been on?
You guys are too set on personal definitions ;)
If it has offended you that I haven't contacted you by a PM, maybe I should have- please accept my apology. But as far as pming the mod or reporting a post- I think it would be much better to take it up with the person than behind their back complain about them and not mention anything to them
You can't understand that something is off if no one says anything- I would never want anyone to do this to me. If you have a problem with anything I said, please bring it up so we can clear this up. Reporting a message behind a person's back- I don't know, I just don't consider it right if it hasn't been brought up to the person's attention first that they weren't doing something right. And I'm talking about myself, not you Mike ;)
The hard feelings are all on your side because honestly, I feel about everyone just like I've felt before. But I hope that we can let this go eventually
It's really not personal at all. I think overall we all benefit from cleaner threads and we should just all pay attention to it
And I understand that by addressing the issue I took the conversation away from the original topic, but I think it's better for me to do this once and point out that something is wrong (I don't usually take threads off topic), than to keep what has been going on so many threads going on. I did this once to improve a situation. I don't see why would me doing this once be an issue unless you're just launching on to what Mike has said
I thought I've explained this
I usually make an effort TO keep the conversation going as the original topic, and I've brought it up once to help the problem
I didn't say that you are the only person that causes most of the threads go off topic. I said that you are on of the main ones who do, and you were
And it wasn't about offending- it was about asking you to keep more threads as what they are started. That's all. Mike just because I'm telling you things as I see them it doesn't mean that I want to cause offense- that's what I meant. That doesn't mean that I should be afraid of telling you that in case I offend you
Don't you agree? Besides up until this point I think I was respectful
We are adults. Hopefully we can all act as such
Whenever you decided not take a thread off topic- I'm grateful to you for every single time of that. I think we all benefit from it as a community. Thank you for often deciding not to reply to off-topic posts
Some flexibility is all fine, but I've mentioned that as well
A "few" comments that are "slightly" off topic are not a problem. If that was the case this thread wouldn't be here. I'm bringing up something that's an issue
The intention of this wasn't to point fingers, but if you think that I should have taken this up with you through a pm then maybe I should have. But honestly, I think that you wouldn't have listened to me and argued on every opinion as well, you seem to here. So I'm not sure that it's not a good thing that we're asking other people for opinions. I'm not sure how much you'd take my opinion for a fact ;) You seem to be fighting on every point with me here
It would probably happen with more offense on your side through pms. Especially with the thought that "this you-know-what pms to tell me how to post"
Know what I mean? ;)
But I don't know you personally so it's only an assumption. On another note I've never called you names or posted profanity, so I don't see how this applies to the argument. I don't see many people here that do

I do agree that we should try to stay on topic as much as possible

If you agree with that then mission accomplished. Thank you for paying attention to the concerns. That's all I meant to bring up
And Mike it's all fine not being offended when someone posts offtopic comments in your threads, but they're still threads in the community- and if yours will go off topic, then the problem that we had up until now will persist
It's not about a personal preference- it's about having clean, healthy threads
And fine. I will always stay on topic on all of your threads, unless it goes off track and I have to beat someone up
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Hopefully soon we can all put this behind
I'm all for a healthy balance-I just don't think that it's what we had up until now. And thank you Kiera for "coming in" ;)
Overall though, this is not a problem anymore
Thanks Mike. You've started this thread to see who cares and who doesn't whether topics go off track- people do care. Thanks for taking notice of that